diff --git a/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.cpp b/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.cpp
index 755e691b3f..afe8a4326d 100644
--- a/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.cpp
+++ b/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.cpp
@@ -899,7 +899,20 @@ void LookAndFeel_V2::getIdealPopupMenuItemSizeWithOptions (const String& text,
                                standardMenuItemHeight,
                                idealWidth,
                                idealHeight);
+}
 
+void LookAndFeel_V2::getIdealPopupMenuSectionHeaderSizeWithOptions (const String& text,
+                                                                    int standardMenuItemHeight,
+                                                                    int& idealWidth,
+                                                                    int& idealHeight,
+                                                                    const PopupMenu::Options& options)
+{
+    getIdealPopupMenuItemSizeWithOptions (text,
+                                          false,
+                                          standardMenuItemHeight,
+                                          idealWidth,
+                                          idealHeight,
+                                          options);
     idealHeight += idealHeight / 2;
     idealWidth += idealWidth / 4;
 }
diff --git a/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.h b/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.h
index 8662fcc9b6..f3ada35f81 100644
--- a/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.h
+++ b/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V2.h
@@ -207,6 +207,12 @@ public:
                                                int& idealHeight,
                                                const PopupMenu::Options&) override;
 
+    void getIdealPopupMenuSectionHeaderSizeWithOptions (const String& text,
+                                                        int standardMenuItemHeight,
+                                                        int& idealWidth,
+                                                        int& idealHeight,
+                                                        const PopupMenu::Options&) override;
+
     int getMenuWindowFlags() override;
     void preparePopupMenuWindow (Component&) override;
 
diff --git a/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V4.cpp b/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V4.cpp
index d611bb9a95..a9ed7700fb 100644
--- a/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V4.cpp
+++ b/modules/juce_gui_basics/lookandfeel/juce_LookAndFeel_V4.cpp
@@ -884,9 +884,6 @@ void LookAndFeel_V4::getIdealPopupMenuItemSize (const String& text, const bool i
         idealHeight = standardMenuItemHeight > 0 ? standardMenuItemHeight : roundToInt (font.getHeight() * 1.3f);
         idealWidth = GlyphArrangement::getStringWidthInt (font, text) + idealHeight * 2;
     }
-
-    idealHeight += idealHeight / 2;
-    idealWidth += idealWidth / 4;
 }
 
 void LookAndFeel_V4::drawMenuBarBackground (Graphics& g, int width, int height,
diff --git a/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.cpp b/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.cpp
index 69129d3696..cf7974aabf 100644
--- a/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.cpp
+++ b/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.cpp
@@ -84,12 +84,11 @@ struct HeaderItemComponent final : public PopupMenu::CustomComponent
 
     void getIdealSize (int& idealWidth, int& idealHeight) override
     {
-        getLookAndFeel().getIdealPopupMenuItemSizeWithOptions (getName(),
-                                                               false,
-                                                               -1,
-                                                               idealWidth,
-                                                               idealHeight,
-                                                               options);
+        getLookAndFeel().getIdealPopupMenuSectionHeaderSizeWithOptions (getName(),
+                                                                        -1,
+                                                                        idealWidth,
+                                                                        idealHeight,
+                                                                        options);
     }
 
     std::unique_ptr<AccessibilityHandler> createAccessibilityHandler() override
diff --git a/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.h b/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.h
index 26235173dd..a8234453e9 100644
--- a/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.h
+++ b/modules/juce_gui_basics/menus/juce_PopupMenu.h
@@ -997,6 +997,12 @@ public:
                                                            int& idealHeight,
                                                            const Options&) = 0;
 
+        virtual void getIdealPopupMenuSectionHeaderSizeWithOptions (const String& text,
+                                                                    int standardMenuItemHeight,
+                                                                    int& idealWidth,
+                                                                    int& idealHeight,
+                                                                    const Options&) = 0;
+
         virtual int getMenuWindowFlags() = 0;
 
         virtual void drawMenuBarBackground (Graphics&, int width, int height,